User talk:Ohmystars

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A few things, editing related
Hey girl! I have to say, when I saw your username on "Recent Wiki Activity", I thought I was viewing another wiki at first, then I thought I was hallucinating, then I thought.... ''Ohmystars....? OH. MY. STARS.!!!!'' like actually exclaimed lmao. THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE and helping out!!!! However, there are a few things... and it's totally on me cuz I honestly didn't think there's any rush to take care of them sooner as no one beside myself and KR had been editing, and now it is coming back and biting me on the *** xP I'll try to list them all but I just woke up... Hopefully it's clear enough...
 * 1) The Killertongue‎ page will eventually be merged (redirected to Mo), that's why I didn't fix the dead-end issue; I am now not exactly sure why I didn't do that sooner but I'll look into it later, thanks for bring the page up.
 * 2) File:Inkheart400x267ef3.jpg; I'm actually not exactly sure what is happening... I know at one point I perhaps imported 3 files from other wikis, thinking that it will work the same way as importing other pages, only to find out that it doesn't, and it just created an empty file page with history; not sure if this is one of them though? How exactly did you find this file? Cuz I remember trying to delete one of the stuff I imported, and it doesn't make much of a difference, so I don't think I did delete the rest. I mean, if you fix the link slightly to http://inkheart.wikia.com/wiki/File:Inkheart400x267ef2.jpg, a page will still show up with nothing, so I don't think deleting the existing one will have THAT much of a difference?
 * 3) Candidates for deletion on templates:
 * 4) Template:Actress‎; I think I will actually be keeping this one lol... Because I myself didn't really know the word "actor" can be used to describe females until like super recently; I mean, I think THAT is ideal, I like genderless noun for a profession, but for me it takes time to get used to, and I think when saying "actor", I will still automatically think of a guy, rather than a girl, so I can understand if someone want to use the template on an actress, typing "actress" on instinct. The redirect will at least automatically guide them to the right one (or I presume it will, will need to actually test it out later)
 * 5) Template:Infobox character/doc‎; so that's where this is! lol Thanks for finding it! This one is again on me... So apparently, our Character template was modified with that one, and had a template called Template:Character redirecting to Template:Infobox character; back then (probably like a month ago) I was like why the !@#$? wouldn't they just name the template simpler in the first place or completely change the name? So I did lmao. I only found out later that the Infoboxes are provided by default, and perhaps using the redirect wasn't such a stupid idea as I thought... but what's done is done. I will rename this one and make it for the documentation of the current template. Thank you!
 * 6) Category:Books‎; ahh, unlike what I've written below, this one I actually have a legit reason to wait around, and unfortunately I'll have to modify your edit. The tricky part is all because of Inkheart! It mentioned quite a few books, and some of them made in-universe appearances; there's also books like Inkheart (fictional book) and Book with blank pages, which are completely in-universe but still books nonetheless, so this category will not be place under Out of universe, and if certain books are indeed Out of universe articles, they will directly be categorized as such instead. Hope that makes sense?
 * 7) Wanted categories; gah.... this is again on me because I know technically they are wanted before they were actually labeled, but I thought the whole idea was a bit laughable as technically they also already exist cuz there's a page for them each; they just didn't have description on them, and I suck at writing descriptions so I didn't hurry to take care of them. I will come up with something soon.
 * 8) Category:Groups; THANK YOU for creating this one! It was something I will eventually plan to do but you saved me the time of doing it!
 * 9) Uploading images ; it's extra large because I felt this one hit me in the face for not completing the polices sooner lmao. Okay I'll explain a bit. So... I was on this other wiki, and they have a very hella strict rule of only uploading files that are .png; anything that's not will be deleted. I didn't really understand why, and after their explanation, I kinda still didn't, but I followed the rule nonetheless. After I adopted this wiki and found out there was literally no custom policies, I was like "well, thank gawd, and I'm sure not applying THAT stupid rule! HA!". I mean, for like a super short time I felt smug that I don't need to spend extra time of changing the .jpg to .png.... Then I started to realize why jpg sucked and why png is so much better Orz I feel that it wasn't THAT obvious on most of the stuff I uploaded, but later on, I also uploaded jpg files on another wiki as they also don't have the png rule; and that was when I confirmed this: jpg truly made the thumbnails look EFFING HORRIBLE, like EFFING HELLA POOR QUALITY, no matter how high quality the actual image is!!! I was so shock to see the difference when I was on the other wiki, and I was like, did they effing shrink my file!? But after clicking on the horrible excuse of a thumbnail to see the enlarge version, and found out, nope, the image looks fine and still pretty dang high quality. This convinced me to eventually modify our policy, I won't be saying that it's an absolute must and that anything that's not will be deleted, but I will repeatedly stress that it will be super effing highly appreciated if uploading files as png. I didn't get to it because I figured there's only two people actually active on this wiki so there was no point of fixing it, that's why it's on me. What's uploaded, is uploaded, I'm fine with leaving them like that cuz for me uploading takes time and I already am in gratitude that you help adding them in the first place, but in the future, if it's not too inconvenient for you, I'd really hope you can upload png files instead.
 * 10) Editions and cover arts‎ ; it's extra large because I again felt this one hit me in the face for not finishing or explaining it properly. content moved to the said subject's talk page

Okay, I think that should cover it all.... Like my usual writing length... It'll probably take some time to digest Orz.... But hey, seriously! Thank you for coming here and your edits truly helped a lot! xoxo -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:51, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! before answering the actual respond, I'll talk about the talk page first lol usually people reply to the other person's talk page, that way the other person will get notified when someone wrote to them (I removed your reply to my talk page; hope it's alright). TBH, for user pages, I DID seriously consider switching to comments, but in the end talk page still won me over... because the editing window is exactly the same as editing a regular article. I know on the new feature it's still doable, but not all the shortcuts are listed, and when KR and I discuss stuff, although now we also take it to other user pages rather than just our talk page, we may need to demonstrate our idea, like the way you kind of did earlier; it's good to see it in an almost replicate way of how it will look like on an actual article page. I know perhaps there's other ways to achieve this like sandboxes, but for me it's just simpler to have them all the same.


 * For the book category, it goes back to the whole reason why it was tricky and I just put up with it lmao. I did consider, for a split second, having separate categories, but the thing is, Out of universe wise, there's actually not that many books and exactly the same thing can be said to the in-universe ones if separating them black and white. I thought it'd be somewhat silly to have two different categories both containing less than 5 pages, that's why I thought before I can come up with something better, that would do it for the time being. But I've given it a bit more thought, I think perhaps I'll have another category called "subject existing in both in-and-out-of-universe" or something like that but better (gawd I'm like so awful at naming stuff!) but right now I'm not sure if that'd help cuz if I eventually apply the book templates to those rare cases, they'd still be automatically categorized as books, but anyhow the point is that, because the number of strictly being Out of universe books are so little, that's why there's no category for it. I suck at explaining but I hope it makes sense. The object idea, believe me, I considered it, too, but the sad thing is, this universe actually don't have much (or at all tbh, I least I seriously can't think of any) objects other than... well, books... buildings if you really want to count it lol. So it wouldn't work.


 * I know of the special pages, and I check them (so yes I find them handy), but I never gave much thought on eliminating what's on there hahaha. I did not know I can create a category with a blank page! THANK YOU for telling me! lmao


 * It actually kind of is a big deal to an extend... cuz I've tried to replace a jpg with a png; wikia does not allow it as they are different file types, or at least that's what happened when I tried to do it. That's why I was like seriously don't bother, cuz the only way to do it is upload new ones and deleting old ones, and well... I don't think it was THAT serious since I didn't inform you in the first place.


 * content moved to the said subject's talk page -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:05, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not gonna lie, I think the Talk page also won me over by mere coincidence lol. You know how sometimes "the first" is just better, like having read the books first, and watched the adaptation and feel the latter sucked, or a song you knew from heart got a hip cover version and you just don't think it's all that great comparing to the original? I mean, there's also the vise versa, like unbiased people being able to still acknowledge the good qualities and all... ANYWAYS.... What I'm trying to say is (lol) I think the fact that the first wiki I ever actually got involved in is using the function, and that I was actually one of the recipients of a demonstration (being a newbie and all), is why the Talk page setting was extra influential. The setting was actually already like this before I adopted the wiki, and what's MORE coincidental, is that one of the former admin is in fact the current admin of the wiki that got me onto Wikia (did not have an account prior to that), and because I'm just literally SOOOOOOOOO NEW to this, I KNOW I will probably be needing a lot of help if I go asking around.


 * When it comes to large direction I do tend to just do it and if asked then explain it; but I guess it was also because the process of the adoption and my non-public emails with the Wikia staff, they kinda really stressed about the whole "community" thing. Before I found KR on your wiki (another great coincident that's definitely fate ahaha), there wasn't really a community so it was not an issue, but once she joined, I thought it is only right to go over certain stuff with her, and now she's an admin, I can only imagine us discussing things even more! xD But then again, I really do agree that the comment function has its appeal; I only just wish Wikia could have allowed both, you know? Cuz I really need a distinguish place for people to discuss if they are concerned about the content of an article, but I've seen it on so many wikis that use the comment function only getting massive spams. In the end I just didn't think it was worth it. If this wiki ever actually get to the point of having more active users, than the new forum function is definitely on the table, because I think that one is more maintainable and people will actually get notified if the post they follow was updated should they choose to; comments on the other hand, idk if it's just me, but it's def. not as noticeable when someone's directly replying to you.


 * Yeah... I know I will have to explain it... hence the whole "description" thing lol... Sorry for the confusion... My inexperience is really showing cuz I did not factor people starting right off with category browsing. I will have to come up with something. (other than the lengthy and super unprofessional looking one I wrote to you). Just want you to know it is in my priority!


 * I think I also tried to rename the file type and hoping to trick the system but failed lol Guess I should have also mentioned that part xP. I'm sorry for making you go through all the extra work x[ As for the code... I'm like super uncomfortable with scripts; like even reading the description I'm just afraid I might accidentally muck up something. I will do it manually; by the time you get online the coast should be clear!!


 * content moved to the said subject's talk page


 * Last thing, I know the timing sucks, with you just joining and all, but my grandma is visiting coming all the way from another continent and she's only staying for a few weeks; my sister and I will be staying with her and our relatives for 5 days, starting from 3PM Saturday PDT time; I WILL bring my laptop, but I'm afraid it'll be rude to spend the time I usually spend (which is a lot) to communicate here when I'm with my family. Just want to let you know this in advance (a day before, haha), in case you wonder why I suddenly am not active.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:21, May 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there, I actually intentionally left that one there, because it was originally uploaded by someone else. Like I said, I uploaded the jpgs before finally realized on the long run they don't look good; not only those three covers, I think for the cast images some were also in jpg. What's been done's done; I was just letting you know that if in the future, you might be uploading more images, then png is preferred, I wasn't asking you to go and switch all what you've done, but sine you said you've already converted those files, I removed the jpg as you've gone through the extra effort.


 * content moved to the said subject's talk page


 * As for the mail, yeah, it is a Wika staff mail (although I was super miffed at first, because the person replied in simplified Chinese lmao).


 * This is one of the multiple questions I asked, the part about admin:

I'm not talking about account names, but like "admin" and "blocked"; I've seen various custom titles to replace them: for example, on http://arrow.wikia.com/, "admin" is "vigilante" and "blocked" is "failed this city"; I could not find how to do this on the Admin Dashboard, if it really is there, then again, it is hidden pretty thoroughly; please enlighten me where and how to do it.
 * How to change user titles:


 * This is the reply I got for the specific question:


 * 这些用户标签是由管理员通过Mediawiki进行更改的，我们不建议和不鼓励用户这样做，但是不会阻止用户进行自行更改. 您可以通过向Arrow Wiki的管理员询问进行更改. Wikia员工不会教授任何用户如何进行这些特殊更改.


 * Since I don't think you read Chinese, this is my loose translation of it:


 * Those user tags are modified by admins through Mediawiki; we don't advice nor do we encourage users to do so, but we won't stop users from doing it. You can ask the admins of Arrow Wiki how they did it. Wikia staff will not teach any users to do special modifications.


 * I obviously felt bummed after reading this, but honestly those title changes were just "extras" anyways, so I as just like whatever lol haha.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:32, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah the talk page thing is a bit weird, I might actually ask a staff about it because I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that a few months ago (or perhaps a few days/weeks ago, not exactly sure) I feel like it only became like this during the recent site updates... this one: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Rupert_Giles/Layout_Changes:_Breakpoints_and_Typography I'm not sure if it is in fact because of this (I could be totally wrong and it has always been like that, I just didn't notice it or something lol), but yeah, I'm not too happy about how the article talk page looks like either way, so I'll def. bring it up to the staff.


 * For converting image file type... There's one major concern right now... like this http://inkheart.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Undelete?target=File%3ATintenherz.png&file=anl65pwgsimlw41b4ux4tb7bs1u23zy.png&token=3196eeef2a9fb77af21dde98a31244eb%2B%5C (not exactly sure if you as a non-admin can see this, but if you can't, I'm assuming you still have the file with you?) is the png version you uploaded for http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/inkheart/images/a/a8/Tintenherz.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150521083331, the colors are fairly off from its jpg counterpart... Is this because you actually got the image from another source, or the convert just made the colors different? Cuz if it's the latter then I'd really just prefer images looking like the way they originally were. There's also the fact that I'd like to keep the credits of the original uploaders; there's not exactly a lot of those around lol. I guess if you want to do it you can do it to the ones I've uploaded (for I don't mind and I know I'll be uploading something else in the future) but if the image is originally uploaded by other users, let's just let those slide! =D


 * Yeah... I think it's because in the same mail I asked some question regarding to a Chinese wiki I have, but still it was really weird cuz my whole mail was in English... I think I came through to the staff after my reply to that mail was also again all in English; the next respond I got was then in English ahahaha. "why would they allow people to edit System Messages in the first place? Isn't the more customized a wiki the better?" IKR? Exactly my thoughts! I guess it somewhat makes sense if some wikis customized the titles to something SOOOOOO un-relatable xP -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:46, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Just a Hi!
Hey, Ohmystars. I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for joining the wiki! You have been super helpful, and even though you've mostly been working with Sammm, I can see the affects of you kindness. Plus, it's just really nice to see a new face around here. XD I know you have a wiki of your own (or rather two) so we are really grateful for your help around here. Please feel free to contact me for anything, whether to tell me something you think should be done, to ask my opinion on something, or just chit chat. Katherine Rebekah (talk) 23:17, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's great, because mainly the only thing I am good at is content, and I know very little about organization and the more complicated coding sense this is my first wiki to be an admin on. I make a lot of mistakes, but I'm learning.


 * How are you liking Water for Elephants? I have heard about it but never looked into it. Right now I am working on Red Queen, though it has disappointed me a little. Next I'm going to give Dune a try.


 * I read the Inkheart trilogy when I was in fifth grade. I was about twelve I think and I loved it. Now I'm rereading for the sake of the wiki and they are still great books, but I can now tell that it was written for a younger demographic. The Reckless series (also knows as the Mirrorworld series) is very good to. It's also written by Funke and is set in the same world as the Inkworld, but has a little more mature themes it it. Katherine Rebekah (talk) 14:56, May 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I remember the hype about it too. Maybe it will get better later on? The thing about Red Queen is that it is sort of the same type of book as The Lunar Chronicles and the Hunger Games. Set in the future, female main character, fighting a corrupted government. The problem with it, for me, has been the characters. I don't feel that they are well rounded enough, they play right into their character archetypes, and the main character often comes across a whiney. As for Dune, it's actually an adult Sci Fi and it will be the first of it's kind that I have tried to read. Haven't started on it yet but I'm excited.


 * Even though they do seem a bit childish now, they are still great books and Reckless is phenomenal.


 * Thanks! I will probably take you up on that offer. :) Katherine Rebekah (talk) 13:44, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, dystopian YA. Now that you mention it, I suppose that LC doesn't quite fit into that category, thought that's how I grouped it in my mind. I do tend to gravitate to those novels, though I have never read Divergent (and don't intend to, unless someone really convenes me), but I love all literature really. If it's well written and involves a quest of some sort, I'm likely to read it.


 * I actually just finished reading yesterday and I must say that the ending was more intriguing then the rest of the book, albeit very predictable. All in all, it's not a bad book, but it's not great either. I would say read it if there is nothing else amazing to read. It's at least puts boredom at bay. And who knows, maybe sense I lowered your expectations it will seem better to you then it did to me, as I came in with very high expectations.


 * I will be sure to let you know how it goes. :) BTW, quick question. Have you ever been in a book club? If so what did you think? I'm thinking about possibly starting one at my church, so I'm interested. Katherine Rebekah (talk) 15:31, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Huge THANKS and other questions
Hey there! In case you haven't seen it yet (the downside of talk pages other than one's own: not getting immediate notification xDDD) I've replied to Talk:Editions and cover arts! Again, thank you so much!!! But that actually lead me into creating a somewhat irrelevant new issue.... When you have time (meaning, I don't think this is dire so you absolutely don't have to feel stress out about it!), can you take a look?

So the thing started because, now that I've used the gallery hack code, what we've discussed and the example comparisons being used, don't quite hold the same effect as before, but it's def. nice to keep a record, so I thought about doing something like I what did on Template talk:Cleanup with the collapsable boxes; and since on that page itself I've already used it twice, I thought I'd just create a template to save future hassle task; I mean, I honestly have no idea how this simple template could go wrong, but it did; I've done something similar before but even that has more description to it (cs) I'm not sure if it's cuz KR and I had no need to insert anything too fancy so so far THAT template is holding well; but the task template I just created; I actually was only able to replace the second Suggestion archive with it on the Cleanup talk page; the first section didn't work, and neither when I tried to get all of the stuff under "Self-created templates v gallery" on the Talk:Editions and cover arts into the template.... Any idea why this is happening?

BTW... Weird! Cuz although I DID think about talking to a Staff about the placement of the button on regular talk pages.... I'm pretty sure I've never actually gone asking for help xDDDD Wonder why it's been miraculously fixed? I hope it'll stay though!!! Anyways I off to bed! Gnites (later for you!) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:04, June 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Holy crap... This time it's actually something urgent!! IDK if it's just me, but it looks like after I used the code, Special:NewFiles now looks something crazy has happened! I may have to use what you originally had and change it to that specific page only, but is there any chance that you can prevent only Special:NewFiles from being applied to? Thanks! Now going bed for reals! xDDD -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:17, June 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! Thanks for helping out! For the gallery hack; I did try to follow the instruction and exclude it from working on Special pages (here) but unfortunately after that, although it did get better; it did not go back to how it looked like prior to the code, so right now I'm limiting the hack to only work Editions and cover arts but how to I add other specific pages in the future? Like do I add extra  on the same two lines for additional pages, or do I copy the entire two lines and place it underneath existing ones and replace the page to the new page I want??


 * I never understood what ! is for nor do I understand its description Orz... Like when you said |, do you mean the | for the template that's going to include a table within (in this case, task), or the | in the custom made table itself? (It's learning time for me, so even though you don't suggest it, I want to understand it properly)


 * Oh bahaha so it's cuz of the LastEdited script!!! Sweet! All the more reason for me to love it even more! Though I actually wish to have it look differently (I've written to the creator but have yet to get a respond).... Do you know if people can customize its look on their end? (again it's nothing dire so no worries xDD) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:40, June 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! I've just switched it to  (here) but it ended up making the new files page looking the same as it did when I had the code wrong... meaning, still not looking like it wasn't effective... so I've again changed it back to targeting a specific page. Thanks for going through with me about how to add another page if needed in the future! I think I'll stick with that route for now xDDD


 * Oh, okay, it doesn't look TOOOOOOO hard to understand atm, I'll probably create (.... or import...? on the same topic, do you know if any of the other templates besides Template:) on the "see also" section of Template:( is worth importing?) the templates we don't have here and experiment on the tables later. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:13, June 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Tried it! Apparently because when I removed the  first time round, I removed 3 of them on the 2 lines, and when I added them back (with a different target page), I missed putting back one of them, so when I switched to , I also missed one; since   is shorter so I tested with it first and it works when I have all 3 of it placed!!! My bad xDDD


 * I'll look around and see what I find on the Templates Wiki!-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:25, June 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * btw, take as much time you need for replying the section below; sleep is most important! and it's about personal stuff anyways, so not dire at all xDDD -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:12, July 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * For replies on threads about problems you've help me with... Uh... I'm so sorry I feel like my memory is really getting worse Dx, I feel like the gallery hack is the first thing you've helped me with, but I think the convo kinda all mainly happened on this wiki... Are you counting this problem as one of those that needed a status update? And then there's the rating-widgets on this thread Thread:862273; I've actually updated the main post cuz I feel that people will see it immediately after clicking into the thread... Is there something you wish me to add? Or do you still wish me to reply as a separate post?? As for the one you're currently helping with (LastEdited), do you just want me to inform the scriptwriter that a super awesome person (don't doubt it, it's you!) is helping me atm and the first two of my question is solved? (I eventually planed on writing a reply on the thread when it's all done... cuz I figured he'd just get one notification instead of three... if that makes sense, but you do have a point that I didn't factor (careless!)... wouldn't want to waste his time if he's also working on it atm)... I'll just copy pretty much what I just wrote onto his wall, or is there any specifics you think I should add?-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:29, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Personal template questions
Uh other than the question mentioned above... This time is something for personal use Orz... I'm just really bad with codes Dx I like the box shape you on your profile(s), and I figured, since I already had something placed in the middle on the top of my user profile template, I'll incorporate with the lovely box you created, but with a bit tweaking:
 * It looks fine when it's "normal" (currently HPW seems to be the exception)

But the part I'm stuck on is the "if" part; I wanted a bar like "Wikis I like to read information from but don't contribute to:" displaying "Why am I on this particular Wiki:" only show up when I insert something... I don't particularly know if the code is correct to begin with, that is something I copied from character as it is used multiple time on it. I don't exactly know where it went wrong; before being just, I think I accidentally put  for all of them, and both of the variations weren't working... I've tried something like,  , or  but none of them were doing what I thought it would be doing; it lead me to question if I got the basic code wrong from the beginning, so I used an unused template on this wiki and remove the distracting part to test it out:


 * gives:

gives:

It appears to be working on this wiki... So do you know what's the cause of it for not working? Just because it's an interwiki template? Is there anyway to make it work?-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:09, June 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! So when I did use The hidden section does show up when I insert something... HOWEVER... The gif image does not... It actually gave me a fright, thinking that the image was delete by community central lol. So I guess I'll take your advice in some ways... like I'll just have to place two different templates... one with the raw in front and the other is the rest of the stuff... (Unless there's a way to let the image show by just using on template?) Cuz that image is actually what got met started with the interwiki user template bahaha.


 * Another section about templates down here ↓ -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:03, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Familytree
Gosh I'm having such a hard time creating family trees with familytree! Really makes me feel dimwitted but I know eventually I should be able to make it work... but meanwhile...
 * 1) Can you take a look at Template:Familytree/doc? I actually didn't realize the problem until I tried to put the "Credits" section (now on top) at the bottom where I usually put it, that it was indented and aligned with "gives..." instead of being a new start; it seems like there's something unresolved with familytree, cuz even when I did add clr after it, whatever that goes on the next follows the alignment "gives..." has. Can this be solved?
 * 2) When you have extra, extra time, can you take a look at the family tree at Folchart family and see why there's those weird little spaces on some of the lines? It took me forever to get the placement representing their relationships correct... And when I tried to find out what's with those little breaks, it just ended up messing it up even worse... So I figured this is the time to watch and learn and ask for help lol.
 * 3) Is there a way to make  (or something similar) applicable within this template? For example, the first "Unnamed ♂" on Folchart family, I'd like it to have it be like Unnamed ♂ so that it doesn't take up more room for the description and people can just hover their mouse if they were unclear who this person is.... cuz honestly I really don't think those unnamed characters need pages atm. I've tried doing adding the thing and the section just ended up not showing up at all Orz -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:03, July 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! Thanks for creating tooltip! You know.... computer languages never cease to amaze me... because I really don't understand why the template is basically just an indirect way of using the script... yet the script itself couldn't be directly used? xDDDD But anyways thank you so much! It makes doing it wayyyyyyyyy easier anyways! Life saver you are!


 * I'm however very frustrated about the reason of those choppy breaks potentially being caused by the lengths of names... Do you think I should switch to use w:c:familypedia:Template:Family_tree after all? I found it via OUaTW, and I actually debated with myself which one (this one or the one on TLCW) I should be importing, but in the end, since I was already going to import some templates for your wiki, I thought I might as well use the one there and save an extra export/import process. I did not know the template seems to have word limits for each box... As you can see on the "Family" section of Rumplestiltskin's page, the names are able to get quite lengthy and still displays fine... However... I just went inspecting how that particular tree is set up... And... Idk if I'm just very stupid or something, but it seems completely different from how familytree works? It's not just a few simply tweaks... is it? Let me know if there's a way to achieve what that template is doing by fixing the one here when you have time! Thanks!-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:30, July 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * Wow this is fairly confusing to me o___O, I agree, the "family tree" template and "Chart" template looks almost identical, at least display wise on their documentation pages... Why wouldn't they just modify the family tree one instead of create a new one with a less relatable name? D; It makes me feel like it's for the use of star charts (lmao) or something xP Anyways... I almost kind of feel like although "chart" is good, it has some extra function I know this wiki probably doesn't need... like take this line for example:, actually just any other stuff that was given as example... I'm wondering why there's this extra step of having to type the info TWICE, like why needing JOE, ME, SIS, and then defining what goes into the box... instead of just write what should be going into the box?? Is it to make the alignment more understandable or something?? o___O" Also a tad bit concerned, because on the "Chart" demo, although "My little sister" is being display on a single line in its box, "My brother Joe" is not.... From the code I def. don't see it specifying to have the "Joe" part on a separate line but it happened; the last thing I want is to have some of the characters' names on two lines while some aren't... Will you be testing it out? I mean, I do see the perks (an additional variation of lines, the dotted ones, perhaps I'll use it to indicate people being half related or something). Let me know!-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:23, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Grrr I wonder why my laptop is being eccentric ="= When it was the template Chart was modified from, "My brother Joe" is displayed on a single line, and when it's Chart, it's not.... Orz but I'm glad at least yours is showing normally. (Praying it will work when it's on this wiki)


 * kk Cool! Good luck and I hope it works on TLCW! =D (P.S.: Bahaha yeah I was planning on still calling them f amily t ree but have a redirect "ft" for it xDDD) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:22, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Forum and projects
Hey there! I went ahead and test out the old forum function and created this Forum:LastEdited script, because I feel like, what we are discussing is affecting the entire wiki, and should anyone wishes to know how it is done, this is a better way of following the conversation rather than going back and forth between both of our talk pages. I only copied the sentences relevant to the topic, if you are okay with relocating most of our talk (again, only regarding to the specific subject) over there, I'll go edit out what I've written on your talk page (like I already did with yours on mine). For the remaining point 3, depends on you, we can still discuss it via our talk pages first (that way we'll get notified) and relocated once it's done; or you can directly reply it at the forum, I'm from with both!

I haven't create the actual pages for projects... basically the concept comes from Harry Potter Wiki:Harry Potter Wiki Projects of which I find some of the project title very endearing (e.g.: Scarhead, Greasy Git, Snakeface). Anyways... What I define Project Team Bookbinder is just the people involving with the looks and function of this wiki... so there's basically 3 people and utmost 4 lol That's why I wasn't exactly in a hurry of creating a page for it atm, but just wanted to inform you about it!! (and uh, obviously hoping you're okay with being a part of it... I mean... essentially that's already what you are doing, just that there wasn't an actual name or team to describe it xDDD (excluding the UserTag))-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:43, July 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! About to go to bed lol. I'll reply the family tree part tomorrow morning. And yay go Team Bookbinder >x3


 * Off topic, I'm listening to Septimus Heap's audiobook for the first time tonight... first time trying this series... Ever heard of or read it? =D -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:06, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Anyhow, the whole "will only run when everything else is loaded", actually leads to other questions that aren't exactly related to the script itself but just something that the script help revealing I guess. It really concerns me cuz all three of the list of quotes pages (again, like List of quotes featured in Inkheart) ran abnormally slow, when there was no additional scripts and just a bunch of quote templates... It really make me suspect there's some bad stuff within those templates... I actually tweaked those colored ones from an existing template Quote, and although I haven't been pleased with the display... I did not at all understand half of what I'm seeing when I tried to edit it... Can you take a look and see if there's some unnecessary stuff in the code? I don't really understand what those numbers are for Orz


 * Lastly, I was on ch. 12 of the first book when I fell asleep last night/this morning. I like it so far :3 -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:23, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * As for the quote templates and color switch thingy, I think I did initially think it should just be on the same template with sub functions... but like I said, when I clicked into the template and tried to edit, I just got lost lmao. I'm looking at it now and even though it's not EVEN A TEMPLATE WITH HUGE LENGTH... I'm still not understanding all the "switches" and their purposes, do you think that's something I can just completely get rid off? TBH, cuz there was no instruction, I actually just use a bunch of "|" to for each section (like how it is on some of the wikis I'm on), I think I literally just realized there's "quotetext|", "personquoted|" and "quotesource|" written within this template (I've grown since April lmao) and I don't think we'll be needing them anyways...


 * PS: I don't mind you moving KR's replay :3 and I have responded to the familytree section (just in case you missed it, but it could be you're actually working on it atm, just wanted to be sure xD) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:11, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! After relocating conversations for 10 hours straight (IKR? I should get a life lmao) I'm kinda beat but kinda feel like this is important. I sort of explain what the colors represent and why it is done rotating with a patter to KR here Talk:List of quotes featured in Inkheart; in short, on the three list of quotes pages, they are rotated so that it's more "immediately" distinctive where a quote starts and ends; however, it may not always be "not repetitive"; take a look at the quotes for Ch. 23: Cold and White and Ch. 39: Another Messenger on List of quotes featured in Inkspell, I've also added how the quote is written in its native language (I'm pretty sure Inkheart also have translated quotes, unfortunately language is not my forte so I didn't exactly put all my time on finding the remaining original quotes). I don't understand how the code works, but will they be able to tell in those cases, they need to stick to the same color? Also, other than what's happening on the list pages, the pink is for quotes from Inkheart, blue Inkspell, purple Inkdeath. As you can probably tell, it's really scarce of editors here, so idk when all the citations can be taken care of; the colors are just a easier way to tell which book the quote is from (we are fairly lucky there's only 3 books lmao, or I wouldn't even think of applying this xP)-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 02:40, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hey there!!
Hi Ohmystars! (This is how I call you, right? xDDD) Hope all is well! I haven't seen any activities in regards to the family tree testings, so I imagine you must be busy IRL!!! So yeah, hope you'll eventually have some free time! =]

I do have a new, shiny, and GIGANTIC question, and because it's very large; this time I post it directly as a forum: Forum:Interlanguage link display. There's basically 4 overall questions, and a few subquestions like your personal opinion on the matter. It's nothing urgent (I think priority wise it's still family tree > quotes > interlanguage display customization), but just want it to get it out there before I forget lol. xoxo -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 03:37, July 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey!!!! Yeah it's fine with me!!! I'm already extremely grateful that you're here to help out in the first place! It doesn't have to be in your priority at all! Just when you have extra, extra free time! Good luck with everything else!!!!!! xoxo -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 17:29, July 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hope all is well! Just wanted to let you know that I have another new question at Forum:Additional TOC! Again, please don't feel like I'm pressuring you to solve it for me immediately; I'm just letting you know that it's there and perhaps you have the ability to help me out xDDDD. Unfortunately, unlike Forum:Interlanguage link display, which I actually can make some sense out of, this one I seriously don't know where to begin (I think it's cuz I'm very distracted about what the page is actually about (still don't get it lol)). So yeah. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 10:03, August 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, I'm not exactly sure when it started to happen, but the gallery code hack seems to be no longer working on Editions and cover arts; please let me know if you've found a solution, or I'm afraid I'd have to use the lame self-made template in the end in order to display the images fully without being cropped. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 03:09, August 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * I will copy and paste the correct code you gave me soon! And yeah, I figured the custom toc on that page only happened because it's specifically set on that page, was just wondering if there's a way to do it on common.js/css or wikia.js/css so that all page it can have it instead of manually putting templates when needed. And no, I have no idea why my browser is not able to see the floating toc; I am not sure if I was clear or not, here goes: I'm not the one whose using it, but I am unable to see the wikis that are using it, e.g.: floating toc's page on dev itself has a demo, and the demo, I'm sure, actually works for most people, but for me, I am seeing a blank box when the toc is floating. The only other known wiki I've come across that uses this script is again the OUaT wiki, and on their wiki I'm still seeing a blank box instead of the toc when it's floating. I am assuming my Safari 7.1.7 on my Mac 10.9.5 is probably a rare case when the script doesn't work; otherwise people bound to have complain about it by now, however, I do not wish to use something that unfortunately I myself cannot see, when it seem like I probably am the only person on this wiki the most lol. So yeah, hope it makes sense xDD -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 14:01, August 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * And yeah, thank you so much for the correct gallery code... It shows how insensitive I am when it comes to code that I couldn't even recognize that I've inserted the namespace to the wrong place Orz... You are such a life saver! -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 14:17, August 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think one of the awkwardest thing just happened. So, for months the floating toc on the dev demo and OUaTW had not been working for me; just now, I decided to use my iPhone 4S to see how it'll work/display on mobile device, that was when I realize they actually listed out two examples. I just checked them on my laptop and I can see them when they are floating! And then I went back to dev and OUaTW, and all the sudden, BOTH of them work! (I no longer see a blank box but can actually see the toc!) I have no idea why this is happening because it really hadn't been working and still didn't up till the point I'd written to you. The only thing I can say though, is that the floating toc also does not seem to be working on my safari on my iPhone (full site mode), but the template used on the Preferences page does, albeit the placement is sort of compromised but at least it worked without a hitch, whereas floating toc seems to sometimes not work for unknown reasons.... Orz -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:00, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

┌───────┘ Hey there! Again hope all is well! Haven't heard of you since the toc talk lol (I still find the fact that it wasn't appearing for me for months and all of a sudden starting to show up extremely bizarre xDDD) But anyways, the additional toc thing does feel like needing to actually be newly written as script, and the interlanguage display needs experimenting (some of the prediction are true and have been settled, right now the only stuff I haven't seen done elsewhere is whether it's possible to display a language name both in English and in native)... So!!!!! I understand those stuff would take too much time! However, I feel like you are quite good at css, so can you take a look at the tabber problem I'm currently having? I honestly feel like I'm 99.9% there, just don't know exactly what I did wrong so that it's not showing like how the given example had. Your help is highly appreciated!!! -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:15, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Quick help! Needed verification
Hi there Ohmystars! Can you check if you can see the flag counter on User:Xxsammmsammmxx/experiments? Because Wikia is retiring Verbatim, I inserted that one with tweaking via css, but idk if anyone else besides myself is able to see it.

Thanks! -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:44, November 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! So so far it seems like the css I did only shows up for Safari (and I'm still not sure if everyone is able to see it)


 * Basically I just want to find a way to display http://s06.flagcounter.com/count/NexJ/bg_FFFFFF/txt_000000/border_CCCCCC/columns_7/maxflags_147/viewers_0/labels_1/pageviews_1/flags_1/ (an image), any idea if is possible and how to do it? -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, November 7, 2015 (UTC)