Thread:MakeShift/@comment-26102182-20200718093736/@comment-807326-20200719124032

Hey there! It's certainly been a while! Hope you're well, all things considered!

In regards to deleting JK Rowling's article, I deleted it as I felt there wasn't a whole lot of credence to having it on here; while she certainly might have influenced parts of the story and characterisations, one could do the same thing if, for example, another fantasy series was influenced by Tolkien, so its wiki had a page dedicated to JRR Tolkien, which in my mind is a bit far-reaching and unnecessary. In relation to quotes actually being used, I know that's been something of a debate for some time on how to include given authors, but I really didn't take that into account, given the pages for quotes.

As for tabview, would you mind reminding me of such pages that used the feature? It's been a bit since I made any of the major edits, so it's totally slipped my mind. Generally speaking any aesthetic work that I did was to make the wiki look sleeker and a bit more readable - a bit more encyclopedic, if you will. I've also never been a fan of ratings on wiki pages; in that particular instance, rating an article on whether it's satisfactory or not feels redundant, as one could hypothetically overhaul an entire page and then its rating is irrelevant.

I didn't mind the LastEdit script, but again any customisations I did make were in the interest of making the wiki more workable. I wouldn't be averse to it returning, but I feel it's not entirely necessary, as it doesn't seem like intensely important information, and one can just visit the easily-accessible history page if need be; particularly, adding more content like that makes it more likely you may confuse casual readers, so the less the better in that regard.

Which templates are you referring to that I deemed "unnecessary"? I likely wasn't really thinking when I did so, so I'd be happy to resume use if they fit the bill of being a good idea. I think I'm just averse to shortening a process if it's really not ultimately necessary, but if it might benefit users in the long run, I'm all here for restoring them.

While I do see the benefit of having a generic template to use, we have so many different sorts of pages that I'm not sure I agree with it being necessary. And people hypothetically arguing that they just did whatever as there were no guidelines really falls under the umbrella of general wiki etiquette; expected etiquette generally dictates that you just follow the existing content when it comes to creating new pages. While this might not be inherently obvious, it's no stress to simply having a teachable moment with a new user and let them know how things are run. If they don't want to comply and are rude about it, then frankly they're disturbing the peace, and that's not our issue, it's theirs.

As for Message Walls, I did preempt the UCP, as talk pages are redundant, but also Message Walls are just generally easier to use than talk pages, as for all intents and purposes they aren't intended to be just another page, they are a place for conversation, so this format is more functional.

But yes, no stress, always happy to answer some questions! And great to see you around; again, hope things have been well with you! :)